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  • Eugene Adkins 7:11 pm on 2014-08-28 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Anti-Religion, , , , , the necessity of religion   

    The liberty of the gospel is not the same as freedom from religion 

    It is becoming ever-increasingly more common to see posts authored by “spiritual” bloggers, hear about sermons preached by “spiritual” speakers or read about books written by “spiritual” writers who make the same spiritual mistake, as politically motivated atheists do, by championing the mantra of “freedom from religion” in such a way to convince others to agree with their point of view. Sounds like religion to me, but anyways. While understanding a person’s point of view is important, it is also true that an individual’s point of view can be easily skewed. That’s because our point of view (our experiences, our study or the lack thereof, our motivations, etc.) can make us completely blind to what we’re saying on a particular topic no matter how plain the truth really is because of the barriers that we self-erect with our position.

    A case in point can be seen in the following “anti-religion” statement:

    We find it fascinating that every single hostile encounter Jesus has is with highly religious people. Not one of them is with a so-called “pagan.” It was religious people who opposed Christ; it was religious people who had him killed. This ought to give you some idea of the pernicious nature of religion. There is relationship with God and life in his Kingdom, and then there is religion. They are not the same.” (here’s the link to the author’s site so you know I’m not taking anything out of context)

    The above quote comes straight from the website of a seemingly fairly well-known author in religious circles…or should I say anti-religious circles? Depends upon your point of view I guess. Either way, the above quote also shows what happens when you want to make a point so badly that you don’t quite stop and listen to what’s being said because it sounds so good to the ears of those who believe it and who want to hear it. So what’s my point about the above point of view? Well it’s this – for multiple reasons, it’s just not biblical!

    1) Of course Jesus dealt with highly religious people on a regular basis – he lived in Israel! Israel was where the very people who had the word of God committed to them lived (Romans 3:1-2). By the time Immanuel was born in Bethlehem, Israel was thoroughly finished with the pagan relationships of the past that are so apparent throughout many of the Old Testament letters. So there’s no real point with that point.

    2) Contrary to the common belief, pagans did indeed cause grief in the life of Jesus even to the point of being co-responsible for taking it! It was the followers of Jesus who made this clear, and it is the very word of God that plainly says, “So when they heard that, they raised their voice to God with one accord and said: “Lord, You are God, who made heaven and earth and the sea, and all that is in them, who by the mouth of Your servant David have said: ‘Why did the nations rage, and the people plot vain things? The kings of the earth took their stand, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord and against His Christ.’ “For truly against Your holy Servant Jesus, whom You anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the people of Israel, were gathered together to do whatever Your hand and Your purpose determined before to be done.” (Acts 4:24-28 – emphasis mine) Whether you call them religious or not, it doesn’t change the point – pagans (or non crediderunt in unum Deum) played a role in the death of Jesus. And even if Jesus would have gone beyond the borders of Palestine preaching the kingdom of God, he would have received the same treatment that the rest of the apostles and prophets and believers received while doing that very thing as can be seen throughout the book of Acts because that’s how the world has always reacted to God’s light whether in Jerusalem or in Jacksonville (John 3:19-21).

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    • Jack 6:29 am on 2014-08-29 Permalink | Reply

      You were too kind. I checked the site referenced, they know neither YAHWEH, nor the Messiah; having become idolaters in the image of their own god.

  • Eugene Adkins 2:56 pm on 2012-10-20 Permalink | Reply
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    How Does Jesus Feel About Organized Religion? 

    Many try to excuse their personal disdain for “church” and “organized religion” by extolling their personal “praise” for Jesus.

    One reason many individuals are sour towards “organized religion” is that they care very little for others who “stick their nose” into their “personal business.” In others words, they do not want to be held accountable to any spiritual standard and there by express their attitude toward any type of discipline, whether personal or congregational ,by saying Jesus is okay, but organized religion is unneccessary or even undesired by God.

    Other reasons and beliefs are given and held to when it comes to explaining a person’s point of view toward “organized religion” but when the truth is told, many individuals fall into the given categories above.

    In light of these facts it’s now time to answer the question, “How does Jesus feel about organized religion?”

    Much to the chagrin of others I’m positive that Jesus is aligned with the “pro-organized religion” group. Grant it Jesus took serious issue with various religious leaders during His earthly ministry. But Jesus’ issue wasn’t with “organized religion” itself – it was with “unorganized religion” being led by the traditions and commandments of men and not the Word of God from the heart (Matthew 15:1-20).

    Right about now some may be saying or thinking, “Eugene, you haven’t proven that Jesus cares for any thing close to what people call organized religion today (i.e. the church). So I’ll make the rest of this article quick and to the point!

    If you think Jesus doesn’t care for “organized religion” then you need to realize it was Jesus who did the organizing when it came to His church and the religion called Christianity that’s found in the Bible! Always has and always will regardless of what any man or woman thinks or teaches.

    He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.” (Colossians 1:15-18, NKJV)

     
    • preachercarter 3:02 pm on 2012-10-20 Permalink | Reply

      So many truly don’t understand what “religion” truly is. In fact to use paraphrase the biblical narrative in James true religion is actually service to our fellowman which is part of worship. As such those that declare that they have no need for organized religion are really making excuses to sin.

      http://thechristianperspective.intuitwebsites.com/index.html

    • Joseph Richardson 3:40 pm on 2012-10-20 Permalink | Reply

      Given that Jesus founded a Church (Matthew 16:18), I’m pretty sure He’s in favor of it. 🙂

    • Robert E. Barger 1:43 pm on 2012-10-22 Permalink | Reply

      Organized religion
      Phil 2:12
      12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
      2 Timothy 2:15
      15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

      The problem with your concept of organized religion is that it is not lead by the Spirit of God. We are commanded to “study to show ourselves approved unto God, a workman not to be ashamed”. These two scriptures above tell us that this is a personal thing, not a group thing. A personal relationship with God the Father through Jesus Christ is what God desires. When we get mixed up with the organized church, we lose the personal relationship that God desires. We are to prove all things by two or three scriptures saying the same thing. Most people that have been fooled into joining the organized church has been taught that they are saved without any renewing of the mind, or on going repentance. There is a growing process that must take place in us to go from the old man of sin to the new man that is just like God the Father when it is completed in us. This is why Jesus died to give us the knowledge of the truth that will make us free.
      All the way through the Bible we are shown that there is a backside of the desert experience that each of us must go through to “see God” and it only comes through us fasting, praying and studying to know God. There is an “order” but that’s why we have been given the gift of the Holy Ghost, to convict us of our sin and bring all things to our remembrance of everything Jesus said.
      The organized church is the same system that Jesus said He was going to tear down. This is a system made up of scribes and Pharisees than, and now.
      Matthew 23:15
      15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

      • Eugene Adkins 8:00 pm on 2012-10-22 Permalink | Reply

        Robert, are you so blind that you do not even realize that the very book which you quote from to try and defend your position of “unorganized religion” begins by saying, “To all the saints in Christ Jesus who are in Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:” (Philippians 1:1).

        Now Robert, does that sound like a letter written by an apostle and written to a church that believed in organized or unorganized religion to you? If you don’t understand what the responsibility of a bishop is then read 1 Timothy 3, Titus 1 and Acts 20. How can a bishop/elder/overseer have the God-given responsibilites they have if there’s no such thing as the organized religion that you claim doesn’t exist?

        People who resist the truth of organized religion remind me of the warning Paul gave to the Ephesian elders when he said, “For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves.” (Acts 20:29-30)

        If you go back and read the scripture referenced in the above article you will see that Jesus is the Head of the church thus proving two things: 1) as the head of the church, Jesus believes in organized religion and 2) the existience of the church proves this.

        Keep studying my friend.

        • preachercarter 2:12 pm on 2012-10-23 Permalink | Reply

          Well said Eugene!

        • Robert E. Barger 1:58 pm on 2012-10-25 Permalink | Reply

          Eugene,
          Have you ever meet a bishop or deacon that operates in th power of God as Paul the apostle? Manifesting the gifts of the Spirit as wrote in Mark 16:15-18 & 1 Corinthians 12:1-31. If these gifts are not there, they are not true bishops ans deacons.

          • Eugene Adkins 2:27 pm on 2012-10-25 Permalink | Reply

            Robert, I went back and looked at the qualifications that PAUL gave for a man to be an elder and deacon and you know what…strangely the qualifications you just tried to give aren’t there!

            I guess you’re smarter than the Holy Spirit??? Besides your comment being false, it also has nothing to do with the post. Keep studying though!

        • Robert E. Barger 2:51 pm on 2012-10-25 Permalink | Reply

          Eugene,
          The scriptures are the sourse of all truth. When we study the scriptures we find that there is the” true Church”, and than there is the so called church that only believes part of the scriptures. To be “in” the true church you must have the Holy Ghost (Not Holy Spirit, the two are different!) In Mark 16 Jesus tells us that these signs shall follow them “that believe”. If you do not believe yo will not have these signs following you. The Holy Ghost is a “gift from God” to them that believe and repent. If you do not believe, or if you do nor repent, you will not recieve the gift of the Holy Ghost. In Acts 8, we have an example of a person who asks for the Holy Ghost, but cannot recieve it because he is in the gall of bitterness and in the bond of iniquity. (Acts 8:23) In 1 Corinthians 12:3 we are told that if you do not have the Holy Ghost, you cannot call Jesus Lord! (Authorized King James 1611) In Hebrews chapters three & four we are told that God hates unbelief and if we do not believe what God has said, we have called Him a liar! 1 John 1 John 5:9 &10. Authorized King James Verison 1611.
          In Matthew 28:19-20 Authorized King James 1611, Jesus commands us to go ye therefour into all the world and “teach the gospel” baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. This is a spiritual baptism, not water baptism. Jesus said the Kingdom of Heaven is liken unto a woman that hide leaven in three measures of meal till the whole was leavened. Matthew 13:33 This is what Jesus was taking about in Matthew 28:19-20 and what He told Nicodemus in John 3:1-5. John 3:3 Born again to “see” (THe Holy GHost) John 3:5 born again of’ the water’ (Having the mind renewed by the washing of the water of the Word) and born again of the “Spirit of the Father” (Love) to” enter’ into the kingdom.

          • Eugene Adkins 6:10 pm on 2012-10-25 Permalink | Reply

            Robert,

            After your first reply I proved you wrong.

            After your second reply (which was off topic by a mile) I proved you wrong.

            Now with your third reply (which is off topic by a couple hundred miles) I can still prove you wrong (with 2, 3 or 25 witnesses mind you) but sadly I don’t think it will do any good since you keep getting further off topic showing that your attention span is too short to have a logical discussion.

            Twisting the scriptures is not the same as rightly dividing them, and since you have proved to only add to them (see your own comment about what you think is a true elder/deacon instead of what the scriptures say) I believe I will end this conversation for now.

            And by the way, Jesus still approves of “organized religion.”

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