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  • TFRStaff 7:37 pm on 2016-05-27 Permalink | Reply
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    Public Discussion on Water Baptism – May 27 & 28, 2016 

    This advertisement is via an email announcement being made by the Southwest church of Christ in Austin, TX:

    On Friday and Saturday night, Jack Honeycutt of the Willette church of Christ will be discussing the essentiality of baptism for the remission of sins with Michael Brawner, a Missionary Baptist Preacher. Jack will affirm the proposition, “The Scriptures teach, ‘a person must be baptized in water as a requirement for salvation.'” Michael Brawner will affirm the proposition, “The Scriptures teach, ‘a person’s last requirement for soul salvation is faith only in Jesus Christ, coming from the heart.'”

    GBN will broadcast the event live, with pre-event coverage beginning at 5:30pm CDT each evening. Mike Hixson and Bart Warren will host GBN’s coverage of the event. The event can be viewed on our GBN cable stations, as well as on our website.

    Recently, Jack Honeycutt was in the studio and talked about some of the events leading up to the public discussion.The recording of this interview is available also by clicking here.

    • Chris Barrett 10:46 am on 2016-06-08 Permalink | Reply

      Is there a way to get a copy of debate. A link or anything to watch. Thanks.

      • Eugene Adkins 5:57 am on 2016-06-09 Permalink | Reply

        Hey Chris,

        Here’s a YouTube link to the video from the first night. You should find the second night’s video in the suggestions on the same page. As far as getting a copy of it, you may want to email GBN. Just follow the link to the GBN site that was provided in the post.

  • Eugene Adkins 7:27 am on 2014-03-11 Permalink | Reply
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    What must I do to be…a member of the Baptist Church? 

    Is it “easier” to get into heaven or into the Baptist Church? Well, according to a book-marker sized tract that I have the Baptist Church is a little more particular than heaven when it comes to what a person must do to enjoy membership with them!

    The book-marker tells its reader “How to Join” the particular “First Baptist Church” that the tract came from. And even though it’s not the gospel there’s good news for those who are interested because there are four ways that this can be done: 1) Profession of Faith and Baptism which says “I have accepted Christ and would like to join ________ and be baptized by immersion.” 2) Baptism from Another Denomination which says, “I am a Christian but have never been baptized by immersion. I would like to join and be baptized by immersion.” 3) Transfer of Letter which says, “I am a member of a Southern Baptist church and would like to transfer my membership to ______.” and 4) Statement of Faith which says , “I am a Christian and have been baptized by immersion. I would like to join ______.

    That’s some interesting stuff to me for several reasons, but the primary one is that apparently it’s easier (fewer restrictions/requirements) to get saved and become a member of the kingdom of God than it is to become a member at that particular Baptist Church! For according to them Heaven doesn’t require a person to be immersed to enjoy salvation but immersion is required to enjoy their fellowship.

    The truth of the matter, when it comes to salvation and faith and baptism, is that if one desires to become a child of God and be added to his church then one does not have to worry with meeting the guidelines or requirements of man; all one has to do is listen to the instructions that a Holy Spirit inspired preacher gave so long ago when he told a salvation seeking people, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” (Acts 2:38)

    According to the scriptures of God a person is not saved and then baptized – they are baptized and then they are saved! Acts 2:41,42 goes on to proclaim, “Then those who gladly received his word were baptized; and that day about three thousand souls were added to them. And they continued steadfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, in the breaking of bread, and in prayers.” This is in complete harmony with Mark 16:16. And that is completely contrary to what the Baptist Church teaches.

    So although, according to their own teaching, it may be easier to become a Christian than to become a member of the Baptist Church, the real question should be, “Do I want to be added to a man-made church by their rules and regulations, or do I want to be added to God’s church by the Lord?” Because the answer that one receives to the latter will not be the same answer that one receives to the former. Let heaven declare the particulars and the way to salvation will be revealed by the word of the Lord.

    “…And the Lord added to the church daily those who were being saved.” (Acts 2:47)

  • Ron Thomas 6:29 am on 2011-09-23 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Baptist Church, name change   

    Name Change? 

    Perhaps you’ll find the piece below interesting. I understand why this might occur (no biblical authority for the name), but it is a terrible shame when some are embarrassed by the Lord’s name – like we have some amongst us! 

    Southern Baptists Considering Name Change

    In order to better reach people for Jesus Christ, the Southern Baptist Convention — the largest Protestant denomination — is giving serious thought to changing its name. A presidential task force has been set up to study a possible change to the 166-year-old name that 16 million members reportedly identify with.

    The SBC President Bryant Wright placed the proposal on the table on Monday during the first day of the SBC Executive Committee’s meeting in Nashville. The committee, comprised of 83 representatives, acts on behalf of the SBC between sessions. Wright explained that the denomination’s name poses some barriers, especially in church planting efforts, noting that it’s “so regional.” “A name change could position us to maximize our effectiveness in reaching North America for Jesus Christ in the 21st century,” Wright stated.

    R. Albert Mohler, president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and one of the most recognized Southern Baptist leaders in the country, said that Monday night’s discussion about the name change was vigorous and emotional. “Those who spoke to the issue with such passion and concern sent a clear and honest signal of how difficult the task may be. Family discussions are often difficult, but this is what healthy families do — they work through the challenges rather than run from them,” Mohler said. He listed some reasons why the denomination should consider changing its name. “We were established as an association of churches that would appoint slaveholders as missionaries. There is so much to celebrate in the heritage of our beloved denomination, but there is also a deep stain that is associated with slavery, the nation’s sectional division prior to and during the Civil War, and the legacy of racism,” Mohler wrote.

    Questions the task force will be addressing are: “Is there value in considering a name change? If so, what would be a good name to suggest? What would be the potential legal ramifications of a name change? What would be the potential financial implications?” Meanwhile, Wright is seeking suggestions on a new name for the SBC at pray4sbc.com.

    SOURCE: http://www.parsonage.org/articles/ministry/A000001998.cfm/#Restrictions

    • Mike Riley 6:57 am on 2011-09-23 Permalink | Reply

      Ron, perhaps these folks don’t believe Acts 4:10-12. There is “no other name” under heaven given among men, whereby we “must” be saved (v. 12).

      • Ron 7:07 am on 2011-09-23 Permalink | Reply

        It is interesting, Mike, how people can accept the verse, but see no incompatibility between that verse and the name they carry.

    • William Shepherd 8:04 am on 2011-09-23 Permalink | Reply

      It’s about being “seeker friendly”. I hesitate to use the term “seeker friendly” because anyone truly seeking to truth will no doubt be found by the most friendly Truth. The term is more associated with ensuring potential churchgo-ers to feel comfortable rather than convicted. I had one pastor tell me that he wanted his church to “feel more like a bar than a church. Churches are stuffy and judgmental.” Wow! If the SBC decide to change it’s name, I can almost guarantee that the name of Jesus will be nowhere in the new name. Words like “worship”, ‘praise”, and “church” are being replaced by “gatherings”, “songs” and “meeting hall”. Some pastors with good intentions are selling out to this type of change believing that it’s good for the body of Christ. As if we can trick the lost into following Christ by convincing them that no change is necessary. A big building full a people who’s life is not changed by obedience to Christ is just a big building full of people.

    • johntpolk2 11:18 am on 2011-09-23 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks for bringing this to our attention.
      When men give names to their religious beliefs, then they have the perfect right to change them to whatever they choose. I remember a Baptist church that began where I was preaching that chose the name “Third Baptist Church.” I questioned on radio, “Why would anyone choose to be ‘third’ and not ‘first?'”
      Worthy of note, also, is that Jesus Christ was to attract the world (John 12:32) and His followers would all be taught of God (John 6:44-45). God in His infinite wisdom gave Jesus’ followers the name “Christian” (Acts 11:26). This God-given name cannot be improved, should not be added to, and is totally unique. And yet, sectarian names (like “Baptist”) keep divisions in the truth of the Gospel of Christ and those who would try to follow it. Why be identified by a doctrine or practice but not completely identified by Him whose blood dedicated that doctrine or practice (Hebrews 9:11-17)?
      Interesting, too, that “Southern Baptists” are being steered away from their “Southern” but not “Baptist” roots. Yet another of the myriad of efforts to re-write history!

  • Weylan Deaver 9:49 am on 2011-05-31 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Baptist Church, baptist preacher,   

    “I am going to maintain that there is no act at all that any man in the Old Testament time or the New ever had to perform in order to be saved. Salvation is received by faith, and faith is the only thing you can do without doing anything.”

    Baptist preacher, Ben Bogard, arguing against baptism in the Hardeman-Bogard Debate, p. 93 (ponder the contradiction in his last sentence).
    • Weylan Deaver 9:53 am on 2011-05-31 Permalink | Reply

      That’s just one example of Bogard’s striking illogic. Here’s another from p. 97: “If you are baptized in order to become a child of God, you can’t be following Jesus Christ. Why? Because Jesus Christ was not baptized to make him the Son of God. He was already God’s Son, baptized that this fact might be ‘made manifest.'”

    • Ron 9:56 am on 2011-05-31 Permalink | Reply

      We need more occasions for there to be public discussions. Some may not feel comfortable engaging in this; others should not be engaged in this, but for those who are comfortable and charitable (but fierce), they should pursue these discussions, no matter the format.

      • Weylan Deaver 10:09 am on 2011-05-31 Permalink | Reply

        Yes, Ron, I’m a believer in rightly-conducted public religious debates. I was astonished to read Bogard saying his debate with Hardeman was the 227th of his career (p. 94). Assuming it’s not a typo, that’s two hundred and twenty-seven debates!

    • Ron 10:18 am on 2011-05-31 Permalink | Reply

      There was a time when conviction meant something! Of course, this is not to relegate the conviction of those who have not the stomach for public discussions, but, in my view, if they support the endeavor, they are engaged.

    • John Henson 10:53 am on 2011-05-31 Permalink | Reply

      Someone who wishes to circumvent the scriptures can’t make a logical argument.

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