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  • Eugene Adkins 7:08 am on 2017-03-06 Permalink | Reply
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    Atheistic argument proves too much 

    “Proving too much” is a philosophical phrase applied to an argument that seems to make a valid point until you realize the point is so broad that it is not able to remain true when the obvious is pointed out. There are variations on the exact phrasing of the definition, but the point is always the same – you prove too much and the result is you prove nothing.

    I recently read an on-line article that discussed the feelings of some atheistic parents after one of their children embraced religion. As with most on-line stories there was a comment section, and as with most on-line stories involving atheism and any form of faith the comments were predictable to say the least.

    Out of all the comments, one stood out to me – but it wasn’t original to the commenter. I have seen roots of the comment (which was presented as a passive argument in this case) used multiple times. And unfortunately I am sure it will continue to be used despite the fact the comment proves nothing by proving too much. In fact, the “challenge” of the comment can be logically answered with fewer words than it takes to propose the argument.

    The argument under consideration is (More …)

     
    • Don Ruhl 7:47 am on 2017-03-07 Permalink | Reply

      Their argument would also apply to evolution. A baby does not believe in evolution until someone teaches him it happened.

      • Eugene Adkins 5:55 pm on 2017-03-07 Permalink | Reply

        You’re being too fair with the proposition to be commenting on the Internet.

  • Eugene Adkins 6:09 am on 2016-05-23 Permalink | Reply
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    The yeast makes a difference in the bread 

    Doctrine isn’t that big of a deal…so says the school of thought from which some of our “tribe-less” brothers and sisters have graduated.

    The whole idea (or should I say bleached out doctrine?) isn’t new, but that doesn’t mean it’s any less wrong.

    When someone says that doctrine is an antiquated and useless topic, they just don’t know what they’re talking about. They might know what they’re saying, but they don’t know what they’re talking about.

    Jesus once told his disciples to, “Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the Sadducees.” (Matthew 16:6)

    Now, what kind of bread producing substance was Jesus talking about? It was the spiritual kind: “Then they understood that He did not tell them to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and Sadducees.” (Matthew 16:12) It’s along the same spiritual idea (only in a positive sense) that Paul had in mind when he told Timothy, “If you instruct the brethren in these things, you will be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished in the words of faith and of the good doctrine which you have carefully followed.” (1 Timothy 4:6)

    You see, the yeast truly makes a difference in the bread that we spiritually eat; so don’t get sandwiched in the thought that says doctrine is a dirty word.

     
    • John Henson 1:54 pm on 2016-05-26 Permalink | Reply

      What is there beyond the teaching of the Bible? The only thing I can think of is humanism — the exaltation of the human mind and imagination. Humanism, or making man the measure, will never teach anyone to become a better person, learn how to treat others, or anything else. Except, it might be enough to teach someone how to build a bird feeder.

  • John T. Polk II 2:09 pm on 2016-02-09 Permalink | Reply
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    2-12-2016 “Religion Doesn’t Matter–We’re All Going To The Same Place” 

    In a city “given over to idols” (Acts 17:16 NKJV), The Apostle Paul said: “Men of Athens, I perceive that in all things you are very religious” (Acts 17:22 NKJV). They were religiously wrong, not believing in Jesus Christ, Who said, “”He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned” (Mark 16:16 NKJV). Paul preached in Ephesus to men who had been baptized in John the Baptist’s baptism: “John indeed baptized with a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe on Him who would come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus” (Acts 19:4-5 NKJV). They had believed in Jesus, but been baptized for the wrong reason. Everyone is not going to the same place, regardless of their religion!

    This is Johnny Polk, with “Words of Wisdom” brought to you by the Oneida church of Christ.

     
    • tiffanystttt 11:38 pm on 2016-02-12 Permalink | Reply

      As indeed is echoed in Matthew 7:13-23:
      13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because[a] narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

      15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

      21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

  • Eugene Adkins 6:48 am on 2015-12-21 Permalink | Reply
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    Where walking with God leads to 

    Walking with God…I think I know someone with a blog by that name.

    Anyways, despite the realities of the green grass and still waters of Psalm 23, walking with God is anything but a leisurely stroll through the park. It can very well lead to the via dolorosa.

    That is why walking with God takes faith, conviction of heart, humility, devotion, self-denial and self-control.

    Walking with God led to Enoch being translated into Heaven (Genesis 5:24), walking with God is what separated Noah from his generation (Genesis 6:9), and walking with God is what led to Abraham blessing his descendants (Genesis 24:40).

    As a matter of fact, it’s only our walk with God that will cause us to bless others and be distinguished from this world and ultimately leave it to be with God just like Abraham, Noah and Enoch. So it’s worth our time to pay attention to how these three walked with God.

    Did you walk with God yesterday? Do you plan on walking with him today?

    The Bible clearly teaches where waking with God leads to, and that leaves a pretty clear picture of where standing still will get us.

    Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent. Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you. You have a few names even in Sardis who have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with Me in white, for they are worthy. He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.” (Revelation 3:3-5)

     
    • J. Randal Matheny 4:50 pm on 2015-12-21 Permalink | Reply

      Who might that be, I wonder?

      Wonderful theme, that, on walking with God and where that leads. Thanks for the reminder.

  • Eugene Adkins 6:20 am on 2015-12-17 Permalink | Reply
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    We’re living in a spiritually blinded culture 

    We’re (and by we I mean everyone in the west, especially America) living in a spiritually blinded culture. And I didn’t say blind – I said blinded.

    Now, when I say “blinded” I’m talking about a condition that leads to a rejection of one thing on the basis of it being too restrictive, and this rejection becomes detrimental to the extent that something else is accepted in its place despite the fact that the “something else” is far more (whatever the “more” may be) than what the original thing actual was.

    The above is why I say that America is in a spiritual stupor that has been increasingly worsened by “liberal-minded” agendas which tout that the ways of Christianity are oppressive to women, that Christianity is too narrow in scope of spiritual freedom, that Christianity should not be promoted in any way within any levels of the public education system, and that Christianity is a scourge to any culture that seeks to broaden its “enlightened” ways of life.

    To all of that I would say two things, “You don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone…and it’s on its way out” and “There are none so blind as those who will not see”.

    True righteousness has been rejected throughout all levels of American government for a plurality of immoral reasons. But, regardless of the reason, when a nation, any nation, has seen the light of God’s righteousness but, in spite or in apathy, still decides to determine what their own standard of righteousness will be, then blindness to God’s true light follows. No exceptions! For there truly is a difference in being blind and being blinded (John 9:40-41, 12:37-41).

    For an example (one amongst the many that purvey the headlines every day) of the totality of what I’m saying here, all you have to do is look at what recently happened at (More …)

     
  • J. Randal Matheny 11:16 am on 2015-03-15 Permalink | Reply
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    My religion is bad 

    Yes, my religion can be bad. The word religion is used negatively in the New Testament for what doesn’t please God. So when is my religion bad? (More …)

     
  • Eugene Adkins 6:00 am on 2015-03-08 Permalink | Reply
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    Why I love the gospel according to John 

    I love the gospel according to John. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying anything remotely negative about the synoptics; but John’s gospel is raw truth for a spiritually cooked world.

    John set the religious world straight in the first-century when it came to who Jesus was, and it’s something that his letter still does to this day. It amazes me how the succinctness of his writings on the only begotten Son of God, who came to be the sinless Lamb of God, can correct pages, and even centuries, of religious error and confusion in only one, two or three verses.

    For example, I read a comment the other day that tried to paint Jesus as someone who sinned because he was tempted by Satan in the wilderness. Their line of thought was that since God cannot be tempted to do evil, and Jesus was tempted to do evil in various ways while in the wilderness, it must therefore mean that Jesus was not God-in-the-flesh due to his temptation, and that Jesus actually sinned by being tempted in-and-of-itself. Besides the fact that Hebrews 4:14-16 teaches that Jesus was tempted, without actually giving into those weaknesses and sinning himself in order that he might be our compassionate high-priest who is able to identify with the weaknesses that we struggle with, thanks to John’s gospel we know that it was Jesus himself who challenged his accusers (people who were angry that Jesus claimed that God was his father) to convict him of sin if they could (John 8:46). It was a challenge that went unanswered! All it takes is one verse from John’s gospel to settle whether or not Jesus was a sinner and capable of being offered for our sin as the sinless Lamb of God.

    I also saw another comment/article the other day that tried to disprove the Deity of Jesus based upon an observation that presented several scriptures that refer to God as the sole creator of the universe, the earth and everything that is contained within each of them. To further their point, they even referred to the scriptures where Jesus himself made reference to God as the creator of man and woman in the beginning without making any reference to himself. These points would be fine and well if it weren’t for what the rest of the scriptures teach on the subject. Case in point, there’s a couple of verses in John’s gospel that just so happen to mention that Jesus (the Word) was at the beginning and that nothing that was made without him (John 1:1-3). So again, all it takes is a couple of verses from John’s gospel to settle the issue.

    John’s gospel was written for a time when a lot of people were questioning just who Jesus was…a time that’s a lot like today, and that’s why I love his letter that teaches people about the good news of Jesus Christ!

    This is the disciple who testifies of these things, and wrote these things; and we know that his testimony is true. And there are also many other things that Jesus did, which if they were written one by one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that would be written. Amen.” (John 21:24-25)

     
  • John T. Polk II 7:12 am on 2015-01-28 Permalink | Reply
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    1-27-2015           Useless “Religion” 

    “Then Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus and said, ‘Men of Athens, I perceive that in all things you are very religious; for as I was passing through and considering the objects of your worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Therefore, the One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you’” (Acts 17:22-23 NKJV). “Religion” literally means “fearing some deity,” in this case, idols. Some people are “very religious” about the “gods” of: power, sex, money, sports, themselves, or things. “Worship without knowing” the God of Heaven and Earth and the Bible is vain. “If anyone among you thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this one’s religion is useless” (James 1:26 NKJV).

    This is Johnny Polk, with “Words of Wisdom” brought to you by the Oneida church of Christ.

     
  • Ed Boggess 7:36 am on 2014-11-12 Permalink | Reply
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    If everything came into existence by chance and natural processes, then mankind has no responsibility to a supernatural being. Religion becomes a crutch for weak-minded and superstitious people. Churches become monuments to human ignorance. Furthermore, if evolution is true, then our actions are consequences of billions of years’ worth of natural events over which we had no control. We bear no responsibility for our behavior. Whether we do what some perceive as good or bad is meaningless, since there is no good or bad. That is the logical extension of Darwin’s theory. It is one I can live without. This is Just-A-Minute.

     
  • Ron Thomas 4:19 pm on 2014-10-22 Permalink | Reply
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    What an atheist did answer, then me 

    QUESTION: If there is no God, then why does every society have a religion?

    AN ATHEIST’S actual answer: Societies are people. People develop theories and create concepts. The existence of religion merely proves the existence of people. The various concepts of god(s) and the great number of different religions no more provide evidence for the existence of multiple gods than they do so for even one.

    A CHRISTIAN (me) answer: This answer is pretty much accurate. The debate on God’s existence must have a different starting place than a society’s religion, or many societies having a religious community. There might be some warrant to asking why the religion exists, but the answer will have to travel further into the depths of the foundation than mere existence of a community idea.

     
    • Jack 5:46 pm on 2014-10-22 Permalink | Reply

      “AN ATHEIST’S actual answer: Societies are people. People develop theories and create concepts. ”
      Of course they do, but that sword cuts both ways, for the atheist’s view that there is no God is only a developed theory and created concept in itself and therefore bears the same burden of proof that JEHOVAH GOD is not in light of the preponderance of evidence that HE IS.

    • Beth 12:04 am on 2014-10-23 Permalink | Reply

      When men argue from logic or man’s theories, they will always find themselves backed up in a corner. Unless we know what the Scriptures say for themselves, we are lost. Surely we can let God speak for himself.

    • Jack 5:31 pm on 2014-10-23 Permalink | Reply

      Ron, have you read the Alexander Campbell – Robert Owen Debate? If not it is a Free Google E-Book.

      • Ron Thomas 6:46 pm on 2014-10-23 Permalink | Reply

        I have the book (hardcopy), but I found Owens tiring as he read his manuscript. This is easy to see when he did not reply to Campbell, but kept on reading. The same thing in the Warren-Barnhart Debate.

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  • Eugene Adkins 7:11 pm on 2014-08-28 Permalink | Reply
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    The liberty of the gospel is not the same as freedom from religion 

    It is becoming ever-increasingly more common to see posts authored by “spiritual” bloggers, hear about sermons preached by “spiritual” speakers or read about books written by “spiritual” writers who make the same spiritual mistake, as politically motivated atheists do, by championing the mantra of “freedom from religion” in such a way to convince others to agree with their point of view. Sounds like religion to me, but anyways. While understanding a person’s point of view is important, it is also true that an individual’s point of view can be easily skewed. That’s because our point of view (our experiences, our study or the lack thereof, our motivations, etc.) can make us completely blind to what we’re saying on a particular topic no matter how plain the truth really is because of the barriers that we self-erect with our position.

    A case in point can be seen in the following “anti-religion” statement:

    We find it fascinating that every single hostile encounter Jesus has is with highly religious people. Not one of them is with a so-called “pagan.” It was religious people who opposed Christ; it was religious people who had him killed. This ought to give you some idea of the pernicious nature of religion. There is relationship with God and life in his Kingdom, and then there is religion. They are not the same.” (here’s the link to the author’s site so you know I’m not taking anything out of context)

    The above quote comes straight from the website of a seemingly fairly well-known author in religious circles…or should I say anti-religious circles? Depends upon your point of view I guess. Either way, the above quote also shows what happens when you want to make a point so badly that you don’t quite stop and listen to what’s being said because it sounds so good to the ears of those who believe it and who want to hear it. So what’s my point about the above point of view? Well it’s this – for multiple reasons, it’s just not biblical!

    1) Of course Jesus dealt with highly religious people on a regular basis – he lived in Israel! Israel was where the very people who had the word of God committed to them lived (Romans 3:1-2). By the time Immanuel was born in Bethlehem, Israel was thoroughly finished with the pagan relationships of the past that are so apparent throughout many of the Old Testament letters. So there’s no real point with that point.

    2) Contrary to the common belief, pagans did indeed cause grief in the life of Jesus even to the point of being co-responsible for taking it! It was the followers of Jesus who made this clear, and it is the very word of God that plainly says, “So when they heard that, they raised their voice to God with one accord and said: “Lord, You are God, who made heaven and earth and the sea, and all that is in them, who by the mouth of Your servant David have said: ‘Why did the nations rage, and the people plot vain things? The kings of the earth took their stand, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord and against His Christ.’ “For truly against Your holy Servant Jesus, whom You anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the people of Israel, were gathered together to do whatever Your hand and Your purpose determined before to be done.” (Acts 4:24-28 – emphasis mine) Whether you call them religious or not, it doesn’t change the point – pagans (or non crediderunt in unum Deum) played a role in the death of Jesus. And even if Jesus would have gone beyond the borders of Palestine preaching the kingdom of God, he would have received the same treatment that the rest of the apostles and prophets and believers received while doing that very thing as can be seen throughout the book of Acts because that’s how the world has always reacted to God’s light whether in Jerusalem or in Jacksonville (John 3:19-21).

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    • Jack 6:29 am on 2014-08-29 Permalink | Reply

      You were too kind. I checked the site referenced, they know neither YAHWEH, nor the Messiah; having become idolaters in the image of their own god.

  • TFRStaff 9:12 am on 2014-06-12 Permalink | Reply
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    Two ends of the pendulum about Jesus’ miracles 

    “Jesus did many other miraculous signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name” John 20:30-31.

    At one end of the pendulum, the postmodern culture we live in works hand-in-hand with liberal theologians who completely discount any supernatural events including Jesus’ miracles recorded in Scripture. They disregard that which John says are written so that they might believe that Jesus is the Savior, the Son of God, and have life in His name. That course is a dead end—literally!

    At the other end of the pendulum, are those religious folks who believe Jesus is still doing miracles and wants everyone to be healthy and wealthy. If He’s not working a miracle in your life, you don’t have enough faith. But notice that the purpose of Jesus’ already-recorded miracles were to bring readers down through the ages to faith.

    Jesus certainly had to power to do more than we see Him doing to right the many wrongs of ancient Israel, but we always see Him selectively using that power for His true purpose.

    Is it a miracle you believe?

    Doug Kashorek, Plattsburgh church of Christ

    http://www.plattsburghchurch.com

    http://www.douglaskashorek.com

     
  • Eugene Adkins 7:17 am on 2014-06-04 Permalink | Reply
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    Why extra-biblical resources for spiritual authority are so frustrating 

    Last week I posted an article called “Jesus is THE prophet of God” on Keltonburg Preacher and I received a comment that questioned the reliability of such a statement and belief. By doing so the comment revealed why extra-biblical resources for spiritual authority are so frustrating. How’s that? Let me show you how by dropping you in midstream of the conversation.

    The reply to my article:

    “Well, i’m a Christian and I believe Jesus to be the Son of God, not a prophet”

    My reply:

    “…Now as to whether or not Jesus was a (and more importantly “the”) prophet of God consider a few things: (More …)

     
    • John Henson 11:27 am on 2014-06-04 Permalink | Reply

      Forgive the indelicacy, but a person who believes Mormonism is a person who is already overcome believing in extrabiblical revelation.

      • Eugene Adkins 6:25 am on 2014-06-06 Permalink | Reply

        Unfortunately I believe you’re right. I’m hoping that our quick conversation at least got them to thinking for a moment or two.

  • Eugene Adkins 7:02 am on 2014-05-13 Permalink | Reply
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    That’s Messed Up! 

    I had the chance last week to attend the “Leadercast” event which is held in Atlanta but then broadcast live throughout America and other parts of the world.

    This was the second time that I was able to attend the event, and if my mind’s not slipping me; maybe it is, I want to do as I did last time and share a few thoughts about my experience.

    Most often, especially in Middle Tennessee, the simulcast events are held at church buildings due to locality and other logistically related issues such as seating. So as the case was last year, this year’s venue was a church building in a neighboring county.

    The thought that I would like to share this morning comes from something the church’s pastor said to the people in attendance. He invited everyone to visit the church and then added this caveat: if you’re not messed up don’t visit our church, we don’t want you here, cause we’re a bunch of messed up people.

    My first reaction to that was, “That’s messed up.” My feelings had nothing to do with a self-righteous, high-horse, better-than-you attitude. It had to do with the fact that if a person is looking for some spiritual guidance then they need to find it from others who have it together – not from people who are messed up.

    This has nothing to do with believing that I’m sinless (outside of the sinlessness that the blood of Jesus provides). This has nothing to do with believing that I’m perfect (outside of the perfection that is found in Jesus). This has nothing to do with with believing that I’m a “holier than thou” individual (outside of the holiness attained and provided through the guidance of the Holy Spirit and Jesus as the provider of the church). It has everything to do with the responsibility of the church’s membership to be distinctly and inherently different from the world (1 Corinthians 6:9-11). You know, the very things than an apostle of Jesus Christ corrected the church at Corinth for doing – they were messed up and Paul said that that was messed up!

    But before you say Paul was messed up (as it seems a whole lot of religious people like to do), I would like to remind you that it wasn’t only Paul who felt that way – so did Peter (1 Peter 1:13-17), so did John (1 John 2:15-17), so did James (James 1:27, 4:1-4), and so did Jude (Jude 16-18). That doesn’t even include the recorded words of Jesus in the gospels that call us out of our messes and into his light. I can’t resist (Luke 13:1-5).

    When I’m having car troubles I don’t want to take my vehicle to someone who has never had car problems. But then again, I don’t want to take it to someone who doesn’t know how to keep their car in good running condition! That doesn’t mean their car never has problems, but it does mean that when the problems come up they know where to order the parts from to fix them.

    I’m not looking for a church that’s full of messed up people and neither should you. I’m looking for a church where the people have it together, and doesn’t mean…well, back up three paragraphs because I’m not going to rehash that hot-potato.

    Am I messed up for feeling this way? Share your thoughts if you think so, or even if you don’t.

     
    • John Henson 1:41 pm on 2014-05-14 Permalink | Reply

      I think i understand what you’re getting at, bro. We were lost, in bondage, blind, living in self-deception and in rebellion against God. But, now, thanks be to God and obedience to the truth, we are now saved, freed, living in the truth and obedient to God, and we have no intention of going back. If that “pastor” meant they were “messed up” and wanted to stay “messed up,” then we certainly don’t agree.

      • Eugene Adkins 5:37 pm on 2014-05-14 Permalink | Reply

        As I was reading your comment I thought of Titus 2:11-12 and 3:3-5.

        I know more than likely that he was only trying to sound more “approachable” but to me an invitation that says that a church isn’t any different than the people who are being invited would make me pause and wonder about the point of it all.

        Even before I became a Christian I knew the church wasn’t only supposed to be different from the world because of who they believed in; they were supposed to be different because of the way they we’re called to live and think.

  • Eugene Adkins 7:29 am on 2014-05-06 Permalink | Reply
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    Wondering out loud about name pronunciations 

    There are some in the religious world who are quite adamant about biblical names and their pronunciation…or at least a couple of them anyways.

    They contend that Jesus isn’t Jesus – it’s Yeshua! They also follow suit with the name YHWH or even Jehovah when it comes to making references about God.

    I understand some of the underlying points made by the proponents of the thought, but to me consistency is the key.

    Why must the “original” be used with Jesus but not with Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Joshua (which is the same as Yeshua), Samuel, David, Solomon, Hezekiah, Nehemiah, and on and on I could go up through the biblical names that we find in the New Testament?

    If one can understand who is being talked about when other names are being used that have made their way through Hebrew, Greek, Latin and English (etc.) translations then why can’t the same translations be satisfactory when referencing Jesus and the God of Heaven and Earth?

    And if one contends that the original name pronunciation must be used then how can one be confident that they are saying the name correctly when past Jewish cultures (according to my understanding) refused to even pronounce such names as YHWH? And what if your English tongue can’t get rid of the accent that you can’t even hear?! If the name is going to be said, isn’t it supposed to said correctly?

    Just wondering out loud here.

    Don’t create a spiritual impediment by getting hung up on the pronunciation of a name – instead, focus on the person being talked about. For calling on the name of the Lord has more to do with seeking God than it does with saying the name correctly (Acts 22:16, Romans 10:12-13).

     
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