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  • John T. Polk II 10:56 pm on 2016-12-28 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , err in judgment, filth, , , vomit, wine   

    “But they also have erred through wine And… 

    “But they also have erred through wine, And through intoxicating drink are out of the way; The priest and the prophet have erred through intoxicating drink, They are swallowed up by wine, They are out of the way through intoxicating drink; They err in vision, they stumble in judgment. For all tables are full of vomit and filth; so that no place is clean (Isaiah 28:7-8 NKJV).  Does this sound like a good new year’s party, or is it the sickening vomit of old year’s drunkenness?  Have you notice the beer commercials don’t show anyone throwing up their beer? The liquor ads don’t show the blurred, distorted vision of the drivers who kill, maim, and destroy innocent people? The bad effects of “intoxicating drink” are used to “ring out the old, and ring in the new year.” It still looks sickeningly the same, doesn’t it? What’s “new?”

    This is Johnny Polk, with “Words of Wisdom” brought to you by the Oneida church of Christ.

  • TFRStaff 9:20 pm on 2015-04-01 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , fermentation, help with addiction, , , water to wine, wine   

    March 2015 Issue of Christian Worker (Alcohol, Drugs, and the Bible) 

    Here’s a link to the latest PDF issue of the Christian Worker.

    Here are the topics that you will find:

    • “Wine is a Mocker” (Richard Massey)
    • “A Little Wine for thy Stomach’s Sake” (Sam Willcut)
    • Jesus Turning Water to Wine (Clay Bond)
    • “Wine” and the Ancients’ Understanding of Fermentation (Dave Rogers)
    • The Spiritual Aspects of Drug and Alcohol Use (Josh Moore)
    • The Virtue of Sobriety (Kevin Rhodes)
    • How May I Help Someone Struggling with Alcoholism? (Mike Rogers)

    Christian Worker is an edification effort of the Southwest church of Christ in Austin, Texas.

    You can subscribe to the email version of the Christian Worker paper by clicking on the publications link on their website and then following the given instructions…or by clicking on the link provided here in The Fellowship Room under the “Friends” category to your right.

    Copyright © 2015 Southwest church of Christ, All rights reserved.

  • John T. Polk II 9:51 am on 2014-11-04 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , government agents, government officials, , , wine,   

    (#209) The Proverbs of Solomon 31:4-7-Listen to Your Mother About Wine 

    Since God Created humans, only God can provide specific understanding of human behavior. God gave Solomon Divine Wisdom (1 Kings Chapters 3 and 10) to explain what and why behavior is as it is, and Proverbs 10:1-29:27 are randomly written, as if they were Solomon’s judgments about individual cases brought to him, or simply God-given explanations about life. Proverbs 30-31 were added and preserved by the Holy Spirit. New Testament passages may help see the continuation of Wisdom offered through Jesus Christ.

    Proverbs 31:4-7: “It is not for kings, O Lemuel, It is not for kings to drink wine, Nor for princes intoxicating drink; 5 Lest they drink and forget the law, And pervert the justice of all the afflicted. 6 Give strong drink to him who is perishing, And wine to those who are bitter of heart. 7 Let him drink and forget his poverty, And remember his misery no more.”

    Verses 4-5: The difference between “wine” and “intoxicating drink” was often what was added to increase its chemical strength, or the process by which it had been made. There is little, if any, difference between the two as to its dangerous effect: “forget the law, And pervert the justice of all the afflicted.” The regular practice of using alcoholic beverages dulls ones judgment and blurs both the lines created by “law,” and fair and balanced judgment of “the afflicted.” NOT ONLY ALCOHOL, but other things have the same effect, that is, being drunk with: authority; control; popularity; fame; beauty; pride; supremacy! Government officials and agents who refuse (or neglect) to obey the laws, and consider themselves above the justice they should provide (either by bribes or reputation) are openly showing they do not serve the public, but themselves, as though they were intoxicated by something.

    Verses 6-7: Show proper, limited uses of alcohol: “strong drink” (more alcoholic than “wine”) to a dying patient or “wine,” (a milder level of alcohol than “strong drink”) to a depressed person. There is nothing wrong with administering pain-relieving drugs to someone dying in pain! There IS everything wrong with administering death-causing drugs to hasten someone’s death! Relieving pain leaves the door open for God to heal, causing the death is “playing God” by making that decision for Him!
    Those who “are bitter of heart” have boxed themselves in with their emotions, and a mild form of alcohol (“wine”) can bring an easing of tension, thus allowing patients to re-think their problem(s).

    A spiritual alternative to alcohol is seen in Hannah, who “in bitterness of soul…prayed to the LORD and wept in anguish” (1 Samuel 1:10). The New Testament tells Christians to: “Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus” (Philippians 4:6-7). Opening the Holy Spirit’s Bible is always better than opening the “spirits” in a long-necked bottle!

    Truly, Wisdom still says, “do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit” (Ephesians 5:18).

    All Scriptures and comments are based upon the New King James Version, unless otherwise noted.

  • TFRStaff 6:37 am on 2014-06-13 Permalink | Reply
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    June 2014 Issue of Christian Worker 

    Here’s a link to the latest PDF issue of the Christian Worker.

    Here are the topics that you will find:

    • The New Testament’s “Pattern of Worship” (Dave Rogers)
    • Social Drinking (Sam Willcut)
    • Do Not Quit Writing (Tommy Kelton)
    • The Doctrine of Christ (William Woodson)
    • Tradition or Truth? (Michael Light)
    • Much Wine? (Tracy Dugger)
    • Can Worship Be Vibrant and Meaningful without Becoming Faddish and Unscriptural? (Tom Holland)
    • What Does It Mean to Preach Christ? (Billy Bland)
    • The Drag of Discouragement (Bill Burk)
    • Involvement (Bobby Liddell)

    Christian Worker is an edification effort of the Southwest church of Christ in Austin, Texas.

    You can subscribe to the email version of the Christian Worker paper by clicking on the publications link on their website and then following the given instructions…or by clicking on the link provided here in The Fellowship Room under the “Friends” category to your right.

    Copyright © 2014 Southwest church of Christ, All rights reserved.

  • John T. Polk II 2:00 am on 2014-01-28 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , drunk, , fermented, grape juice, liquors, sorcery, spirits, , wine, witchcraft   

    (#144) The Proverbs of Solomon 20:1-Make That “Toast” – Toast! 

    Since God Created humans, only God can provide specific understanding of human behavior. God gave Solomon Divine Wisdom (1 Kings Chapters 3 and 10) to explain what and why behavior is as it is, and Proverbs 10:1-24:34 are randomly written, as if they were Solomon’s judgments about individual cases brought to him, or simply God-given explanations about life. New Testament passages may help see the continuation of Wisdom offered through Jesus Christ.

    Proverbs 20:1: “Wine is a mocker, Strong drink is a brawler, And whoever is led astray by it is not wise.”

    “Wine” that’s “a mocker,” capable of causing “drunkenness,” is fermented. “New wine” expands by fermentation and could burst an “old wineskin” (Luke 5:37-39). Jesus Christ’s first miracle changed water into “good wine,” or “grape juice,” because the “master of the feast” was not expecting the fresh juice Jesus had made, because the guests had “well drunk” (John 2:1-11), that is, the grape juice they began with had been fermenting while they had been drinking. The only description of the Passover juice Jesus used to represent the blood of His sacrifice is “fruit of the vine,” depicting it as freshly squeezed as possible (Matthew 26:29; Mark 14:25; Luke 22:18). Knowing the risk of drunkenness (Ephesians 5:18), Paul advised “a little wine for your stomach’s sake and your frequent infirmities” (1 Timothy 5:23). Timothy must have been an abstainer that he would have to be told “a little” could have medicinal use.

    “Strong drink” is that which is fermented to a greater degree, thus stronger in its effects, sometimes known as “liquor or spirits.” The obvious impact is not just drunkenness, but violence.

    “Drunk” is a term referring to a loss of moral judgment, therefore “wine mocks” its user. Noah became drunk, lost his sense of shame, and exposed his nakedness (Genesis 9:20-28); Lot lost his sense of sexual purity and committed incest with his daughters (Genesis 19:30-38); alcoholics  who “linger long at the wine,” and “go in search of mixed wine” lose control of their words, bodily injuries, and memory (Proverbs 23:29-35); government officials lose control of their sense of duty, law, justice and pervert and ignore the laws of the land (Proverbs 31:4-5); religious leaders err in knowledge of God’s Word, and vomit on their tables (Isaiah 28:7-8). In spite of the damage it causes, wine and spirits are freely sold and consumed—how unwise is that? One of the areas of the United States that consumes the most alcoholic beverages is Washington, D.C.! No wonder that government perverts Constitutional Law, because those drunk on power lose their inhibitions by being drunk on alcohol!

    Alcohol is a drug, but other drugs that are abused for their power over a human being are certainly included in the term “sorcery or witchcraft” (the Greek word is “pharmakeia,” a dispenser of drugs). All substances that chemically control a person are included in this discussion, and must be sparingly used, not for “social” purposes!

    All “drunkenness” will be punished on the Judgment Day (1 Peter 4:1-5), because it is a “work of the flesh” that keeps a person from inheriting the “kingdom of God” (Galatians 5:19-21). “Then Peter said to them, ‘Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit’” (Acts 2:38). Clear your mind from the effects of drugs, and cleanse your soul by coming to Jesus Christ.

    All Scriptures and comments are based upon the New King James Version,unless otherwise noted.

  • Eugene Adkins 7:12 am on 2013-11-15 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , , Reality TV, wine   

    An op-ed from a non-editor 

    Recently the ole’ Duck Dynasty group has been making the headlines in places such as Fox News, New York Daily News, MSN, Huffington Post and no doubt a whole lot of Face Book posts (just Google it if you’ve been out of the loop). And what’s the reason for such attention? It’s only their latest merchandise endeavor – good, old-fashioned alcoholic wine.

    I hope you pick up on the sarcasm there when I use the word good.

    But sure enough, the winery world is a buzz over the latest label being placed on the shelves because they’ll soon be buzzing off of the “reality” TV family’s alcoholic drink of choice. You know, the TV show that’s proud to bring faith into the living rooms of TV land.

    Now let me be completely up front – I don’t care for the show. The show had been around for quite a while before I actually watched a couple of episodes; neither of which impressed me. In both episodes there were a few comments that really made me scratch my head due to the fact that the show had been labeled as wholesome. So I must admit that I’ve never really understood the attraction before or after I saw them in action. But with their latest move I can understand why they may be so popular with the world…after all, saying grace while tossing a few back is something that a lot people find appealing.

    I’m saying what I’m saying because no matter what flavor the wine comes in the move is in poor spiritual taste. I mean what’s next – a beard on a Clydesdale?

    Regardless of how I feel about the show, the show has a huge sphere of influence – but encouraging people to live under the influence of alcohol in any way isn’t a sphere that I’d be interested in if I were them. The Bible uses strong words of warning when it comes to the use of wine and strong drink (Proverbs 23:29-35). And the people of God are encouraged to get their buzz off of doing God’s will and we’re to encourage others to do so as well (Ephesians 5:17-20). So why would a person go after the wine of the vine and promote it if what they’re trying to promote is the Vine of John 15?

    Please don’t take what I’m about to say as sour grapes, but it sure seems as if the “dynasty” has traded the ducks for the bucks…and I’m not talking about the kind that has antlers.

    But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.” (1 Timothy 6:9-10)

    • colonelofcorn 8:10 am on 2013-11-15 Permalink | Reply

      Really? Christians are commanded to drink wine in remembrance of our Savior. Timothy was told to drink wine for his health. Many characters in the Bible were involved in wine production. Jesus turned water into wine. Has the Church of Christ become A another denomination? One that picks which versus they believe and which ones they do not like all the other denominations?

      • Eugene Adkins 9:24 am on 2013-11-15 Permalink | Reply

        Hi, “colonel”.

        Thanks for your reply. I’m going to give you some answers to the issues you raised but first let me say that I know I’m probably not going to change your mind if your email address has anything to do with a vineyard (I’m not saying it does – might just be a coincidence), and also keep in mind that unfortunately you won’t be able to hear my tone of voice in my reply because they’re going to sound “short” but I’m not saying anything to be standoffish.

        1) Christians are not “commanded” to drink the wine you’re referring to. Leaven wasn’t allowed in a room in which the Passover was going to be observed, and the wine that you’re referring to contains leaven. So the point you’re trying to make there doesn’t hold water or alcoholic wine for that matter.

        2) How much wine was Timothy told to drink again? And please note the drink was for his health, not his wealth, his recreation, or his promotion of products.

        3) Many characters in the Bible were adulterers, liars, murderers and people who made some very woeful decisions while they were drunk. So I don’t get your point there.

        4) If you think the miracle of John 2 has to do with Jesus approving of drunkeness you’re missing the point of the miracle. Jesus wasn’t at the wedding to witness with a “bud” in one hand and a Bible in the other, He did what He did to reveal His power. And by the way, who says the wine of John 2 was alcoholic? Did it have to be alcoholic to be a miracle?

        5) I’m not “church of Christ” but since you’re inferring that I am show me which verse I don’t like when it comes to this topic.

        6) What part of Proverbs 23 that was referenced don’t you understand?

        Just to let you know, I haven’t always been a “tea totter” and I wasn’t raised in a house of sobriety…so I’m extremely familiar with the effects and danger of alcohol.

        • colonelofcorn 10:21 am on 2013-11-15 Permalink | Reply

          I have no desire to argue with you the only reason that I commented on your post is because I have seen souls pushed away from Salvation over this very issue. You seem to be so confident that you are right that you would stake others salvation on your opinion be careful.

          • Eugene Adkins 10:37 am on 2013-11-15 Permalink | Reply

            I wrote the article because I believe a Christian has no business being in the alcohol business. Especially when one has a particularly large sphere of influence. If you get on the ole’ www you’ll find that the reason the issue has become a larger story is because a religiously affiliated group canceled the “dynasty’s” appearance because of their association with the wine label. And I don’t blame them, especially if the organization deals with people who have overcome, or who are who are still fighting, substance addiction. Alcohol comes with great danger and promoting the use of it for recreational uses or financial gains is not a wise decision. If someone takes a drink privately in their home I’m not going to tell them they’re going to Hell, but if a person (a Christian in particular) is looking to publicly promote drinking then I believe that person needs to examine their heart. I’m not saying I know their heart but I am saying it seems as if the decision lacks spiritual maturity, wisdom and discretion.

            • colonelofcorn 1:20 pm on 2013-11-15 Permalink

              Alcohol is dangerous but not as dangerous as adding to or taking away from the Word of God.

            • Eugene Adkins 2:05 pm on 2013-11-15 Permalink

              Really now? So whose opinion is judging who now? I might be getting the wrong message so feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, which I assumed was the original intent behind your first comment. You being confident enough in your position to say that I’m wrong.

              You tell me where I judged their soul. I judged their wisdom. You tell me where I added or took away from God’s word. You accused me as a “church of Christ person” of not liking certain verses when it comes to this topic yet you didn’t present a single verse. Correct if I’m wrong here but it sure seems like you think you can use your opionion toward me without being judgmental but I can’t use mine. The point of my article was that alcohol is dangerous spiritually, emotionally, financially and physically speaking. And a person of God would do well to avoid “aiding and abetting” other people when it comes to habits that are destructive.

              Again, tell me where I added or took away from God’s word if that’s what you’re insinuating.

              Oh, and by the way, alcohol can indeed cost a person his or her soul. Read Galatians 5:19-21.

            • colonelofcorn 2:34 pm on 2013-11-15 Permalink

              When you teach prohibition where the Bible simply teaches self control you are adding to the word. Error on the side of caution is still error. It doesn’t matter if you are in the left ditch or the right ditch you are still not on the road.

            • Eugene Adkins 2:41 pm on 2013-11-15 Permalink

              Are you even reading my replies? Or are you just pretending that I’m saying what you want me to say?

              Again, you tell me what verse I’ve added to or what verse I’ve taken away from.

            • Eugene Adkins 6:59 pm on 2013-11-15 Permalink

              I’m still waiting for that verse that you say I added to or took away from…whichever it is.

              While I was waiting I got to wondering, since I’m “off the road” with my error that you’ve still yet to point out, just how many drinks does one have to have before they’re not “spiritually fit for the road” according to your opinion?

              As far as literal roads go most states say, depending upon a person’s weight and their sex, that 1 to 4 drinks (which consist of only 4 oz. of “table wine” each) constitutes the average person being legally intoxicated/drunk (above the .08 limit). Please keep in mind that “impairment” (aka buzzed) begins much, much sooner than being intoxicated does (often times with the very first 4 oz. drink). So how does your definition (according to God’s word of course) of “moderation” line up with that?

              Please give some scripture to support your answer just so I know that you’re not guilty of doing the same thing that you’re accusing me of.


            • colonelofcorn 7:35 pm on 2013-11-15 Permalink

              I will not. This conversation is over. Please do not contact me anymore.

            • Eugene Adkins 7:58 pm on 2013-11-15 Permalink

              That’s what I expected. And my friend, don’t forget – you “contacted” me; you kept the conversation going, not the other way around. So please keep that in mind before you go putting words in other people’s mouths.

    • colonelofcorn 8:55 am on 2013-11-15 Permalink | Reply

      P. S. The Robertsons are members of the Church

      • Eugene Adkins 9:32 am on 2013-11-15 Permalink | Reply

        I am we’ll aware of their religious background and a little familiar with the congregation they attend, to which I have some doctrinal issues when it comes to some of their practices.

        Them being “members of the church” is why I wrote the “op-ed” piece to begin with.

    • Sandi Rog 10:38 am on 2013-11-15 Permalink | Reply

      I was once curious to know if Jesus turned the water to fermented wine, and if you look up the Greek word, you’ll find it’s definitely fermented. However, the word used in reference to the “blood of the vine,” it can be either or. I don’t believe it’s a sin to drink wine (although, I personally don’t drink it), but we do need to be careful in our “promotion” of it, since it’s considered “sinful” to many brethren. We don’t want to be stumbling blocks or cause our brethren to stumble.

      • Eugene Adkins 10:57 am on 2013-11-15 Permalink | Reply

        I believe the reference in Proverbs 23 gives the best rule of thumb when it comes to alcohol and a Christian…and my experience in life has shown it to be very true.

      • James Randal 5:48 pm on 2013-11-15 Permalink | Reply

        Sandi, to what Greek word do you refer?

    • John Henson 11:54 am on 2013-11-17 Permalink | Reply

      100% right on the money, Bro. Eugene! Point being that you can’t be mouthing support of the truth and then steer yourself into drunkenness. It’s too bad that so many have become enamoured with this popular television show, but it just bears out what Jesus said, “Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets,” (Luke 6:26). Beware, folks.

      • Eugene Adkins 1:14 pm on 2013-11-17 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks for the kind words of support brother. I appreciate it very much and I agree with your sentiment.

        • docmgphillips 8:57 pm on 2013-11-17 Permalink | Reply

          Eugene, I am late to this conversation, and heartily applaud your effort. Paul’s injunction to Timothy also included “for your stomach’s sake and your oft infirmities.” Water at that time could be quite polluted, and the addition of a small amount of alcohol could help. Also, we need to remember that that wine was not fortified, and therefore much less alcoholic.
          As for the “Duck Dynasty,” I watched once and that was enough to tell me…well, never mind.
          Keep up the good work, Brother. May God bless you as you stand for Him.

          • Eugene Adkins 6:24 am on 2013-11-18 Permalink | Reply

            Thank you, Doc, for your words of support and for the contributions and perspective you have brought into TFR (Ephesians 6:13).

  • John T. Polk II 2:03 pm on 2011-11-28 Permalink | Reply
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    “‘ Tis The Season To Get Drunk” 

    Power Point Charts on the subject of: “‘Tis The Season To Get Drunk” are available at: http://doverchurchofchrist.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/How-To-Get-Drunk-And-How-To-Stop1.swf

  • Ed Boggess 1:02 pm on 2010-02-19 Permalink | Reply
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    This little light of mine – JAM 

    A Durban, South African man burned to death when he set himself afire following an argument with his wife. It is not surprising that the police reported that he had been drinking. The man and his wife became embroiled in an argument and he threw his wife out of the house that they were renting, and then poured paraffin over himself and the house and set himself alight. He not only lost the argument, he lost his life. But that is what alcohol will do for you. It will rob you of your good sense and leave you in a stupor. “Wine is a mocker and strong drink a brawler, and whoever is led astray by such is a fool”. This is Just-A-Minute with Ed Boggess

  • Ron Thomas 7:54 pm on 2009-12-27 Permalink | Reply
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    Hard Sayings (6)
    Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine, and valiant men in mixing strong drink, who acquit the guilty for a bribe, and deprive the innocent of his right! (Isaiah 5:22-23)

    It is not often noticed in Scripture that there is a difference between the words “wine” and “strong drink.” In every case where “strong drink” is mentioned, it is always in the negative; not so with the word “wine.” It is also interesting that the words “strong dink” is translated “beer” in the New English Translation (NET). What is the point? Why is it that some, including Christians, would want to be associated with that which the Lord speaks negatively about? Some, I suppose, just want to be associated with what they consider “happiness” (or a good time) more than they desire to enjoy life in a godly way. It is a struggle for all, but a struggle worth enduring for the life of the saint. I wonder if on Judgment Day those who enjoy their alcohol will desire it then!

    • Mike Riley 8:58 pm on 2009-12-27 Permalink | Reply

      Ron, Great point about judgment day. Once I was ridiculed by two members of an adult Bible class I was teaching on this subject a few months ago:


      I simply told them that there is no individual on earth who can drink “responsibly” because after that first drink, you become “irresponsible” to a certain degree. Then I used the Brown University study to prove my point.

      Then there is the point of providing a godly example before others.

      • Ron 9:21 pm on 2009-12-27 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks, Mike. Your words are very kind. I will check out the links soon.


    • joepalmer 4:09 am on 2009-12-28 Permalink | Reply

      I agree Ron. Even if it was not stated to be a sin there is so much negative associated with the use of alcohol that I can’t understand why one would want to use wine. My biggest practical argument is that theoretically drinking is no different than playing Russian Roulette with your children and grandchildren. There is based on my research a 1 in 6 chance that if you start drinking you will have a drinking problem.

      48% of people over 12 describe themselves as drinkers. 7.5 % of the total current population meet the criteria to be considered an alcoholic. That mean if you drink there is a 1 in 6 chance you will become an alcoholic. If you don’t the chance is 0%

      Now if you drink statistics show that your kids are more likely to drink. Therefore you are encouraging them play Russian Roulette. Why would you take the chance? Why would you want to be a negative influence on your kids.

      For more of my articles please read….http://wp.me/pwTn4-40 or http://www.joepalmer.wordpress.com

      • Ron 10:55 am on 2009-12-29 Permalink | Reply

        Thank you, Joe. I appreciate your remarks.


    • Laura 1:39 pm on 2009-12-29 Permalink | Reply

      Good thoughts brothers. I’ve often heard my brethren rationalize that drunkenness is a sin, but drinking is not so they can drink socially with their friends. It escapes me how one can be “ready to give a defense for the hope that is within him” while drinking alcohol. One’s mental capacities are so impaired as to not be able to be sharp and quick on his feet.

      • Ron 1:50 pm on 2009-12-29 Permalink | Reply

        Thank you, Laura. You’re very kind in your remarks. I just sent out you link to the members of the church here in Illinois.


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